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Oct '22 *
So I rewatched this for the first time in a long time. I was never a big fan of it but I never understood the hate for it at the same time. I think I do now in retrospect. The first half of the film isn't terrible imo, the cutoff point where it really goes downhill for me is after Michael escapes and kills Ken Foree in the rest stop bathroom stall. I am a big fan of McDowell and Dourif but they're wasted here. Sheri Moon is terrible and grating per usual. I recall liking 2 the Directors Cut better than the first as long as you ignored Sheri Moon and those ridiculous white horse scenes. Any thoughts?

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Box_a_Hair says:
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Oct '22
A lot of people defend the first half of the film, which I thought was atrocious. The fact that they spend half of the movie trying to explain Michael is asinine, especially when they don't offer anything you couldn't simply assume about his tenure there in the first place. They decided to make Michael and angry asshole kid with mommy issues who acts like a bitch because he was bullied? It's a complete misunderstanding of the source material.

I only started to enjoy the movie once he got out and it began to emulate the original more. I do agree that the scene where Foree dies is lame, but only because I think Foree should've put up more of a fight. Joe Grizzly should've been the main star of the film and it would have turned out fantastic. How about instead of any of that, he talks a big game and then gets his arm bashed against the stall a thousand times until he drops the knife, then bleeds out without getting any of it on his coveralls? Yeah, that's a great idea.

The new trilogy is sprinkled with references to previous movies. In 2018, Michael bashes a guy's head against the stall a half dozen times so he can get it open, and that was a much more effective scene.

I don't recall a lot of differences between the two cuts, but I know the escape sequence is different. Theatrical features Bill Moseley, director's cut features rednecks raping an inmate, which is out of place for a Halloween movie. RZ should've tried making his own slasher film instead of fucking with an established franchise and it might have worked. As a Halloween movie, it's annoying as fuck.


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Box_a_Hair says:
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Oct '22
Another thing RZ didn't understand about the character: his ability to blend in with a crowd, because he was supposed to be a normal fucking human and not a giant.

There was a bit of a height change in the new trilogy too. James Jude is 6'3" while Nick Castle is 5'10", so Michael grew another 5 inches between '78 and '18. But it led to an interesting bit in Ends since Corey is more reminiscent of Michael's original height. He's actually 5'9" (same as Dick Warlock), so I got Halloween 2 vibes from all of his masked scenes.


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Box_a_Hair says:
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Oct '22
The remake trend has gone down a bit though. They realized that fans hate it when you try to replace their fave movies, hence the rise of the legacy sequels. There are still a few pointless remakes like Terror Train, which is almost the exact same fucking movie, but at least they've slowed down a bit.



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