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Feb '23
The past couple of weeks I've been rewatching his films which started by bumping into Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I thought it was good the 1st time I viewed it but appreciated it much more this 2nd time around. So I started digging out old DVDS and searching out what I didn't own, I even watched films he doesn't consider his but either co-wrote, co-directred or produced like Killing Zoe, Four Rooms and Dusk til Dawn. I didn't bother rewatching Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction cause I can practically recite them while watching, I've seen them so many times. After viewing just about his whole filmography I've come to this...The Hateful Eight is his most underrated film. We will never again see a film like this, not only for it's content but the way it's filmed. Not only was it not shot digitally but he filmed it in 70mm, something at the time not done for over a decade or 2. The panoramic widescreen is just unbelievable when and if noticed. Jennifer Jason Leigh was nominated for an Oscar even though those awards have been irrelevant since 2000 imo. You will never again see a performance like the one she gives simply cause it's not allowed anymore. Anyways, so if I think The Hateful Eight is his most underrated which of his films do I think is his most overrated?... IMO it's a coin toss between Death Proof and Inglorious Bastards. Debate me, leave your thoughts or ignore me...it's fine.


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Box_a_Hair says:
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Feb '23
There's not a damn one of his movies I don't like in some way. Outside of his numerically canon films (the 8th film by QT, etc), his side projects aren't going to be as good, but still typically good enough.

I think his weaker movies are Natural Born Killers and Jackie Brown. NBK was directed by Oliver Stone and feels a bit too weird. I could never get into it that much, but I do happen to love the "I Love Mallory" scene with Rodney Dangerfield. Jackie Brown is still a good flick, but it feels out of place, considering QT didn't write it. It doesn't have as many of his quirks in it since it's an adaption of a book instead of his own.

I can throw on any of his other movies and get sucked in quite easily. It's hard to pick a favorite since they're all great in their own ways. I usually default to Pulp Fiction as my favorite since I'm so typical.


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#2, Reply to #1

Feb '23
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was his "9th film." He sold his screenplays True Romance and Natural Born Killers to finance the production of Reservoir Dogs, his "1st film." Both screenplays were supposedly drastically changed by Hollywood.


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Box_a_Hair says:
#3, Reply to #2

Feb '23
At least True Romance retained his vibes more than NBK. Not a perfect movie still, but closer to what would become his trademark style.


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Znep27 says:
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Feb '23
The Hateful Eight is my favorite of his, but I don't think I've met anyone else who agrees. Some say I'm crazy.

I like all of his films, but I put Jackie Brown and the Kill Bills at the bottom. They're fine, but I rarely find myself coming back to them.


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#6, Reply to #4

Feb '23
I can't put The H8ful 8 ahead of Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs due to those films really being so important to Indy cinema in the early 90s. Me being a cinephile since a kid, Tarantino really resurrected Indy cinema back then. I'm in the middle of watching The H8ful 8 right now after rewatching it for the 1st time last night since it came out. I can safely say it's my 3rd favorite out of his "9 films."


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zed says:
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Feb '23
Aint seen his last 3 films ( I should give them a watch, maybe after Ive seen all the marvel films ), Death Proof would be his worse IMO.
Apart from pulp fiction, an overrated director


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#7, Reply to #5

Feb '23
If you like Westerns check out The H8ful 8 Zed...it doesn't disappoint imo. Don't even bother with anything post 2018 concerning Marvel, waste of time you ask me.


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zed says:
#8, Reply to #7

Mar '23
I will eventually, thats the one I most wanna watch, I watched the end of 'punisher war zone' last night, pretty graphically violent


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#10, Reply to #8

Mar '23
Punisher Warzone has some corny dialogue but the levels of violence and gore is unmatched in any Marvel film. I like the fact it's over the top, it's the way a comic book adaptation should be imo.


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Johan_WoW says:
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Mar '23
I just checked letterboxd and the only ones I saw from Tarantino as a director are the Kill Bill movies. Fun at the time, too silly for me to revisit now. I had been tempted in my tweens to watch Pulp Fiction as it was considered kinda cool for young guys to like it for various reasons. I had some kind of feeling it wasn't for me. I wasn't really into those type of movies at the time. I heard that the movie is not chronological I guess like Sin City and Mulholland Dr which I have seen long time ago. Somehow I have this feeling its too hipster for me. I know Q was a fan of Russ Meter or at least his Pussycat Kill movie. I enjoyed Meyer's early funny nudie stuff but once he got into exploitation and people would consider his movies feminist (which is utter bullshit IMO unless being feminist means women dominating and treating men like shit) they became a chore to sit out. Apparently there is social commentary in the movies which I either miss or simply don't care about. I much more enjoyed the more to the point roughies from for example Doris Wishman or Joseph P. Mawra (Olga's series) or the Findlays (Flesh trilogy and more). Up was of course nice as a horny teenager but don't care any more. I never found any of the sex scenes in Meyer's movies appealing or sexy, more like how can you make sex look so darn dumb or unpassionate (he loved interrupting them by throwing in random images of moving objects). I really tried to get or enjoy Meyer's movies and I do understand he has some kind of cult following as he was doing things differently. Different however doesn't mean better at least not for me. I watched a lot of his movies pretty much all up to Beyond the Valley of the Dolls (scenario from Roger Ebert yeah the famous critic who was a fan of Meyer's movies). That is considered one of his best according to the fans but I found that such a boring movie that I totally gave up on exploring even further (well I have seen almost all of them looking back). I'm like what is all the fuss about, I don't see it. Is it a thing that only the cool and hipsters can appreciate or understand, dunno. Besides before Beyond the Valley of the Dolls there was already Starlet 1 year earlier which was a way better movie IMO dealing with the theme of abuse and exploitation in the film industry. Anyway it's quite an effort for a director to make movies with sex and nudity that boring but Meyer managed that multiple times for me.
So yeah sorry for going a bit offtopic but that's what I know and experienced.


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markus-san says:
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Mar '23 *
I don't think Death Proof can be called "overrated" because most fans consider it to be his weakest film by some distance. Even the critics didn't take too kindly to it at the time. Although I do prefer it as part of Grindhouse rather than as a standalone movie despite it missing that fantastic lap dance scene.

I can't really say I find any of his movies to be "overrated" personally although I was slightly disappointed in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, so I might say that one. I've only seen it once though, definitely need to watch it again. Django Unchained is another one I find, whilst I do enjoy it, it's not one of the ones that I feel I want to revisit that often (probably because of the last 20/30 minutes which it drags it out too long), unlike Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs which like you, I can practically recite and never tire of re-watching.

IMO, Jackie Brown might be his most underrated.

Interesting that Kill Bill Vol III might end up being his "10th" and final movie when Kill Bill Vol. I and Vol. II are considered to be one movie. It won't be The Whole Bloody Affair anymore will it. Perhaps he should call it something like Kill The Bride or Kill Beatrix Kiddo, considering Bill is well... already dead emoticon.


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#12, Reply to #11

Mar '23 *
As I've said before I like all his films. The 1st times I watched Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and The H8FUL 8 I enjoyed them but now that I've rewatched them I appreciate them a lot more, especially The H8FUL 8. Jennifer Jason Leigh's performance is masterful imo. In a lot of scenes she has no lines but since she's handcuffed to Kurt Russell she's always there. Her expressions and mannerisms while Russell is conversing with Sam Jackson or anyone else were missed the 1st time. I really like Jackie Brown and have rewatched it a lot of times through the years, saw it in the cinemas. Although QT didn't write it and it doesn't have as much of his signature dialogue as his other films, it's masterfully directed and acted imo. You're probably right concerning Death Proof being overrated so I'll go with Inglorious Bastards. While I remember Christoph Waltz being great in it, I thought it was too over the top and somewhat ridiculous especially in the 2nd half. I have the BR next to me and plan on viewing it tonight, it honestly hasn't been opened since I bought and 1st viewed it 12-13 years ago?


Mar '23
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#13, Reply to #11

Mar '23
After rewatching Inglorious Bastards, it is easily his most overrated film imo. I'd rather watch Death Proof again. The opening scene is great with Waltz but it never gets better than that. It's so over the top it's distracting and Pitt was terrible in it with his ridiculous Appalachian accent.


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markus-san says:
#17, Reply to #13

Mar '23 *
Yeah Chapter One and Chapter Four (in the tavern) are the best parts of IB. Chapter Two is the worst but the other two chapters are pretty decent. I always enjoy the finale, partcularly the use of the Bowie song. Pitt's accent is pretty ridiculous I agree but a couple of occassions he genuinely made me laugh. And Waltz is great throughout it.


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jimb14red says:
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Mar '23 *
I love Death Proof and think it is by far his most underrated movie. Surprised to see someone say it is overrated as it is widely considered his worst film by many including him.

I enjoy all of his films on some level. My least favorite would be Jackie Brown but I wouldn't necessarily say it is overrated. Kill Bill is my favorite but I love Kung Fu flicks. Also love Inglourious Basterds and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.


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#15, Reply to #14

Mar '23 *
TBH I never looked to see about critics ranking his films til now and I see it seems to be considered his most overrated film by most but I was purely going on my feelings alone at the time. After rewatching just about all his films (gonna watch Django tonight, even though I've seen it multiple times) I feel differently than before. Here it goes, my ranking his 9 films imo...

1) Pulp Fiction
2) Reservoir Dogs
3) The Hateful Eight
4) Kill Bill
5) Jackie Brown
6) Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
7) Django Unchained
8) Death Proof
9) Inglorious Bastards


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markus-san says:
#16, Reply to #15

Mar '23
For what it's worth, here's mine:

1. Pulp Fiction
2. Reservoir Dogs
3. Kill Bill
4. Jackie Brown
5. The Hateful Eight
6. Inglorious Basterds
7. Django Unchained
8. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
9. Death Proof


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Znep27 says:
#18, Reply to #15

Mar '23
I would go

1. Hateful Eight
2. Inglourious Basterds
3. Pulp Fiction
4. Reservoir Dogs
5. Death Proof
6. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
7. Django Unchained
8. Kill Bill
9. Jackie Brown


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jimb14red says:
#20, Reply to #15

Mar '23
1) Kill Bill
2) Pulp Fiction
3) Death Proof
4 ) Inglourious Basterds
5) Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
6) Reservoir Dogs
7) Hateful Eight
8) Django Unchained
9) Jackie Brown



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